Comments on: Generate HTML from a JSON Without any Template but HTML and Javascript http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/ The News about the Easiest and Fastest Timesheet Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:22:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: design http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-90 design Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:43:36 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-90 feedback doesn't have a plural. [you wanted feedback, that's why I'm saying it] feedback doesn’t have a plural. [you wanted feedback, that's why I'm saying it]

]]> By: Mic http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-89 Mic Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:04:23 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-89 @Stephan, #14, I moved this to the discussion group: http://groups.google.com/group/Pure-Unobtrusive-Rendering-Engine/browse_thread/thread/ddfc6b59d286b031?hl=en And will answer there. @Stephan, #14,
I moved this to the discussion group: http://groups.google.com/group/Pure-Unobtrusive-Rendering-Engine/browse_thread/thread/ddfc6b59d286b031?hl=en
And will answer there.

]]> By: Stephan Schmidt http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-88 Stephan Schmidt Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:56:29 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-88 Thanks for the reply. Doesn't sound very usable from a designer view point. And as far as I see doesn't allow for "push-button" release management, when a developer has to modify all pages by hand for release. Or I don't get it yet :-) Peace -stephan Thanks for the reply.

Doesn’t sound very usable from a designer view point. And as far as I see doesn’t allow for “push-button” release management, when a developer has to modify all pages by hand for release. Or I don’t get it yet :-)

Peace
-stephan

]]> By: Mic http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-87 Mic Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:45:38 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-87 @Stephan, #12 As a login screen is a fairly static HTML you can apply the following procedure: * Place the HTML for the login screen in a page while you develop * Set the directives to make it live * Then compile it to a JS function (with $p.compile) * collect this JS function, (with $p.getRuntime; See a "how to" at the bottom of the page: http://www.beebole.com/pure/examples/docs/allExamples.html) * copy&paste the JS functions into a file(.js) that is common to all your pages (probably with your login logic too) * Then call this JS function when needed. Note the browser will cache this JS file @Stephan, #12
As a login screen is a fairly static HTML you can apply the following procedure:

* Place the HTML for the login screen in a page while you develop
* Set the directives to make it live
* Then compile it to a JS function (with $p.compile)
* collect this JS function, (with $p.getRuntime; See a “how to” at the bottom of the page: http://www.beebole.com/pure/examples/docs/allExamples.html)
* copy&paste the JS functions into a file(.js) that is common to all your pages (probably with your login logic too)
* Then call this JS function when needed. Note the browser will cache this JS file

]]> By: Stephan Schmidt http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-86 Stephan Schmidt Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:33:50 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-86 Looks very good. One issue I see is reuse of components. For example you might want a login box on every page, which changes state when being logged in. Can solve Pure this requirement withouth cut&paste the box into every page? Peace -stephan Looks very good. One issue I see is reuse of components. For example you might want a login box on every page, which changes state when being logged in.

Can solve Pure this requirement withouth cut&paste the box into every page?

Peace
-stephan

]]> By: Yves http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-85 Yves Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:30:57 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-85 @ Mirza Thank you for the link. If you have experienced Apache Wicket, what was the main difficulties for you in the mind-shift you described ? I am always happy to know that kind of info to make our documentation and examples better. @ Mirza

Thank you for the link.

If you have experienced Apache Wicket, what was the main difficulties for you in the mind-shift you described ?

I am always happy to know that kind of info to make our documentation and examples better.

]]> By: Yves http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-84 Yves Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:45:03 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-84 @ Darrell: Thanks a lot for your comment! Mic has been the main thinker and contributor to this project (largely). If you create a rails plug-in, just drop us a message on our discussion group: http://groups.google.com/group/Pure-Unobtrusive-Rendering-Engine. We will always be interested in all kind of evolutions (even if it is just the logic). @ Trans: Thank you for your comment. It is true that PURE is still very young and we will learn more from various experiences and contexts, as people will start using it. PURE came from an internal need as explained in the post and has been built in that sense first. The main reason of releasing it as Open Source is to benefit from all those external experiences and to share with others having the same needs. On SEO, again, we created PURE in the development phase of our web app BeeLit for which search engine indexation is not relevant. We still think the logic behind PURE is good and we will translate it to our Erlang back-end. It could be done on other languages as well. A comment on Reddit mentioned the use of Rhino and Spidermonkey to have it on the server side. @ Darrell: Thanks a lot for your comment! Mic has been the main thinker and contributor to this project (largely).

If you create a rails plug-in, just drop us a message on our discussion group: http://groups.google.com/group/Pure-Unobtrusive-Rendering-Engine. We will always be interested in all kind of evolutions (even if it is just the logic).

@ Trans: Thank you for your comment.

It is true that PURE is still very young and we will learn more from various experiences and contexts, as people will start using it.

PURE came from an internal need as explained in the post and has been built in that sense first.

The main reason of releasing it as Open Source is to benefit from all those external experiences and to share with others having the same needs.

On SEO, again, we created PURE in the development phase of our web app BeeLit for which search engine indexation is not relevant.

We still think the logic behind PURE is good and we will translate it to our Erlang back-end. It could be done on other languages as well.

A comment on Reddit mentioned the use of Rhino and Spidermonkey to have it on the server side.

]]> By: Trans http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-83 Trans Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:21:05 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-83 I've worked with this type of template system before (it's not new). It seems perfect at first, but it proves to have some issues. For starters, while the logic/template separation is very clean, that isn't always so convenient. It tends to be a little more involved should something need to be changed. It may seem like that the separation will lend itself to division of labor between designers and programmers, but that turns out to be limited. Also, doing this on the client-side isn't so helpful for search engines, if that is important to your page. Having said that however, this type of system still has it's merits. It's clean, has good SOC, and can off-load some template processing to the client. I’ve worked with this type of template system before (it’s not new). It seems perfect at first, but it proves to have some issues. For starters, while the logic/template separation is very clean, that isn’t always so convenient. It tends to be a little more involved should something need to be changed. It may seem like that the separation will lend itself to division of labor between designers and programmers, but that turns out to be limited. Also, doing this on the client-side isn’t so helpful for search engines, if that is important to your page.

Having said that however, this type of system still has it’s merits. It’s clean, has good SOC, and can off-load some template processing to the client.

]]> By: Darrell http://beebole.com/blog/pure/generate-html-from-a-json-without-any-template-but-html-and-javascript/#comment-82 Darrell Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:28:23 +0000 http://beebole.com/blog/?p=84#comment-82 Template code has always been ugly, even in rails. And designers want to be able to use dreamweaver or other visual tools to make templates. Whoever had the brainwave for this idea is a genius. You win the internets. Now the mockup IS the template. You just deleted me a very tedious and error prone job. I might make a rails plugin for this because it is so great. Template code has always been ugly, even in rails. And designers want to be able to use dreamweaver or other visual tools to make templates. Whoever had the brainwave for this idea is a genius. You win the internets. Now the mockup IS the template. You just deleted me a very tedious and error prone job. I might make a rails plugin for this because it is so great.

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